Craigslist Strikes Again!

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Seems to Me that craigslist would make a good study for the ATF,

considering what they just did to that poor Soldier in Wisconsin,

their whole staff would end up in prison.

Dan

Can you provide some links to the story on the Soldier in Wisconsin? I'd be interested to keep up on abuses especially of soldiers.

There ya go,ATF run amok!!!

Dan

Excuse my ignorance, but what happened with a soldier from Wisconsin and Craiglist? I would be particularly interested about this too. There needs to be a boycott of Craiglist, period.

["I seem to remember this passage from the bible about
casting the first stone, and another about being judgemental. As I am not without sin, I try to
stay away from rocks. And as I am not God, I do not judge...I leave that to him."]
Jim, the next time you face this pop culture judgment of Christianity, please use my profile to answer.
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I demand an apology from you leftist hypocrites or anybody who's ever condemned a Christian for judging. I and my entire faith have been labeled hypocrites for exercising our God given responsibility to use good judgment. You have managed to convince nearly all of pop culture to judge and condemn us for judging. By mis-using our scriptures, you take one verse out of context and reduce thousands of years of wisdom to a three word bumper sticker slogan, "Don't Judge People" or "You Shouldn't Judge" effectively hijacking the lesson it was meant to teach and twisting it to fit your self centered agenda to continue in whatever sin you feel judged for. I'd be shocked if any of you could name the verse you so glibly quote to justify this charge against us. Even if you could, you wouldn't be able to quote the next verse or any other verse that supports it, yet you have the nerve to quote our Holy Book to us without any understanding of its proper application.
I will rip your self righteous prejudiced condemnation of us to shreds and expose your hypocrisy before God and everybody if you try doing that to my face. If you ever do decide to read a scripture, try this verse; [John 7:24 "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."] Oh my God, open these hearts to the truth and make them face their shame for shaming the righteous. Don't snort! We know we are not perfect, neither are we wrong about this. Righteousness is one of those buzz words you hypocrites, who don't like being judged but, enjoy judging us for. If you had any idea what righteousness we speak of, you'd know your judgment of us is unfounded and just plain wrong.
I suppose you'll try to judge and condemn me for being angry next. When I am wronged, and especially when my entire faith is condemned on the basis of a prejudice, I have, not only a right, but a responsibility to be angry. Its called righteous anger and the Bible reference for that is Eph 4:25-27. [25 Therefore, putting away lying, each one speak truth with his neighbor, for we are members of one another. 26 Be angry, and do not sin" do not let the sun go down on your wrath, 27 nor give place to the devil.] It means I have to speak the truth, it means I have to say it in the face of those indulging in self delusion. It means I shouldn't bottle it up because that would give place to the devil using it in me to create my own prejudice. So if you don't like being judged with righteous proper judgment, tough, that doesn't give you license to judge us with prejudice and unrighteous improper judgment."]

Dear 'Cat,

The story has nothing to do with craigslist,I was just pointing out what

the BATFE could do to them if they put their minds to it.Go to

the video link above and see what BATFE did to the Soldier in

wisconsin,whose career and life is now in a shambles because of

a simple weapon malfunction.

Dan

You were absolutely correct in your original assessment. The ATF are targeting the wrong folks. They went after the soldier so hard because of the auto function of the firearm. They were wrong because the evidence proves that the weapon was functioning the way it was meant to when it was loaned out. Only after 800 rounds of firing properly (1 per trigger pull) it then jammed and broke the piece that makes it function legally and thereafter fired as fully auto which is illegal. If in the raid they had found the same weapon still in full auto capability they might have had a legitimate case. I would still be very critical of a prosecution but they might have had a case. If they used this kind of aggression against legitimate cases as in Craig's List, then I would fully support that prosecution. They have preferred to ruin a good man's life based on their no tolerance of fully automatic weapons and let national secrets for sale at an online garage sale go unchallenged.
Did you get the link to the video?
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2008/03/13/ldt.tucker.govt.guns.cnn
I am watching this now. Thank you so much!
Yes, thank you JudgeBob. I am so angry about how this soldier was treated. I didn't see any stories here on the local news about it. When will this treatment of our soldiers stop?

Sir,I don't know if You call Yourself "JudgeBob"because You used to

sit on a bench,or that is just Your internet handle.But doesn't it strike

You as odd that some expert witness,such as a neutral gunsmith,

wasn't called in to determine the fact that the rifle was,indeed,broken,as testified

to by the man at the rifle range?Is our justice(?) system so broken,and ATF

so insistant on strangling people over the gun issue,that these measures

could not be taken,especially in light of this Man's 16 Years of dutiful

service to this Great Nation? The fact that craigslist is apparently immune,

and this dedicated Soldier is not,really lights My firecrackers.

My legal knowledge is limited,sure,but I'll say this,if I were the President,

I would personally go there to wisconsin and put My foot up the asses

of every agent involved,fire their commanding officer,expunge that

Soldier's record,and have him reinstated immediately.JMHO.

Signed:

Blockhead

Proud Member of the NRA

My handle as you call it is because I have witnessed to young adults and teens on Yahoo's answers.com and then other answerers would condemn me for using good judgment. I have never sat a bench or even sat in a courtroom over any criminal trial. This is a case of mismanaged power on the part of ATF easily recognizable. I agree that the pres should boot some common sense into these agencies when this sort of thing comes out. Similarly, the border officers convicted for doing their jobs, and troops doing their jobs only to be convicted. Prosecutors and investigators abusing their powers should be held to the same penalties they try to inflict on these people.

Remember Nifong and the conviction of children participating in 'slap butt' day at a middle school? Those kids were strip searched and held in a local jail. In effect the boys were sexually assaulted due to this over zealous prosecutor looking for a politicians reward of a seat in office.
How zealous would these idiots be if they had the same done to them when they were found to be abusive of their powers?
What is up with George Bush not doing anything about the Soldier in Wisconsin? Can he do anything? Does he even know? There is so much wrong here. From the post Craigslist (what the heck is he thinking, and why is he doing it anyway)? And ......urgh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're right,JB,and I also agree wholeheartedly about the border

patrol officers,they should also be released immediately,given their pack pay,and returned to work.I believe I said something to that effect some

where on HI's blog,a while back.Agreed,also,about unfortunate and

mostly,if not all,illegitimate cases being pressed on Our combat

personnel,who are forced every day to make split-second decisions.

I have,of course,read your post above about hypocritical judgement from

the left,trying to use scripture to their own agenda,request permission

to repost,where necessary.

And agree with AI,UUURRRGHHHH!!!!

This whole thing makes Me so mad,well,I'll leave the expletives out of it.

Okay. I'm lost by some of the comments. But let me respond to original post and Wisconsin guy who got croaked. I'm not a proponent of guns. I do understand the historical reasoning that NRA is behind the 2nd Amendment so much. So I pause and try to get my head around past governments where right to bear arms removed vs. 90 guns per hundred Americans and the amount of accidental shootings and murders. BUT before you say anything that's not why I'm responding.

A. Seems Wisconsin soldier got screwed. His weapon was considered a legal weapon. Even though I think semi-automatics stink. BUT it was legal. HOW his friend fired 800 rounds before it jammed is beyond me if it is one shot after another vs. machine burst. Seems they should look into the gun failure. The company that makes the gun should look into it and defend this poor guy and someone should wonder what the heck 800 rounds? Might that have caused a malfunction?
B. If secrets are being sold on Craigslist (and I don't like the thing anymore than eBay), it's really about security breech and access to sell secret documents. The barn door is open to selling anything on the Internet. So shut down Craigslist and the stuff will go for sale on eBay or private sites. So what's the point about Craigslist? Am I missing something? Isn't it a possibility that secrets (if accessed and that is a horrible thought) can be sold anywhere on the Net and are. Hey diagrams for bombs are on the Net for free. Tim McVeigh could tell you that (ooops, not anymore :) A little gallows humor.


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Any one who sells things to unknowned buyers that can be shipped to terrorist who want to kill all AMERICANS should be drawn and quartered and his parts scattered to the winds !!!
You are welcome to post any of my work where you deem appropriate. I only ask that you include the link back to my article. I appreciate your value of the content of my articles.

If secrets are being sold on Craigslist (and I don't like the thing anymore than eBay), it's really about security breech and access to sell secret documents.

The secrets on Craig's List is in the form of stolen military goods that can then be backward engineered to discover how they're made. So, stolen military goods alone, then the fact that they contain sensitive information. The issue that makes Craig's list more culpable is the fact that they provide international markets the information. Otherwise it would be a simple civil issue. E-bay is a bit more responsible with this kind of thing but could be held liable if they were caught with sensitive items up for international sale.


I see the point. Yes, the federal government wastes time on this guy who had no malice, but does nothing to this machine of craigslist who, as the story said, put U.S. service members and allies at risk.

The guy from WI lent a rifle, used at a range, that malfunctioned for God's sake. What's the big feaking deal!

Anyone who sells secrets is a traitor. Period end of story. And if as JudgeBob says, Craig List is particularly problematic because of international laws (which I know first hand as a consumer scammed by an American company on international waters) prosecution is difficult. But not impossible.

So, if Craig's List which after using once to rent out an apartment, as I looked through it I found it to be pretty offensive is not keeping a better watch on what's being sold, then, yes, they are culpable. And you know what? They are as responsible to protect American interests. There's a line to draw on free capitalism and their obligation to monitor. One more reason for me to dislike them.
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I heard that even going to Craiglist can put viruses on your computer. Its just not safe - in many aspects, apparently! I mean, what do you WANT the guy to say. "My website is out of control and unmaintainable." I wish the craiglist would be shut down altogether or at the very least be given a set of ultimatums that have to happen before the website can be up and running again. Why doesn't ebay or Amazon have these problems? And 12 PEOPLE! That's NOTHING! I hope he falls in a pile of his own poop.
LOL! I hope he falls in it and has to EAT it too.

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